Riverfront Coliseum, Cincinatti OH

USA · Saturday 21 November 1981 · Abacab

44 years, 11 months and 19 days ago

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Eeklair Remaster
2h 3m total
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2CD-R
Quality
A
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Eeklair Remaster
Rating ★★★★☆ 8.0/10 (1 ratings)
5 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:58
  2. 1.2Duchess06:04
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway07:00
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:02
  5. 1.5Abacab09:03
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:02
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:50
  8. 1.8No Reply At All10:12
  9. 1.9Firth Of Fifth11:44
  10. 1.10Man On The Corner04:26
  11. 1.11Who Dunnit?05:44
  12. 2.1In The Cage / The Cinema Show / The Colony Of Slippermen11:35
  13. 2.2Afterglow04:22
  14. 2.3Turn It On Again05:13
  15. 2.4Dance On A Volcano04:30
  16. 2.5Drum Duet01:55
  17. 2.6Los Endos06:06
  18. 2.7I Know What I Like11:59
Recording comments
Master Cassette > 1st Gen > Azimuth adjusted Cassette rip to Eeklair's Hard Drive (WAV) > Eek Tweak > Flac level 6 > YOU!
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FL-02
2h 3m total
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2CD-R
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A
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FL-02
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.8/10 (8 ratings)
17 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:40
  2. 1.2Duchess06:20
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway06:59
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:01
  5. 1.5Abacab09:00
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:02
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:49
  8. 1.8No Reply At All05:16
  9. 1.9The Story Of Cindy Lue04:57
  10. 1.10Firth Of Fifth09:17
  11. 2.1The Story Of The Lonely Man02:24
  12. 2.2Man On the Corner04:26
  13. 2.3Who Dunnit?03:16
  14. 2.4Band Introductions02:21
  15. 2.5In The Cage07:49
  16. 2.6Cinema Show / Slipperman03:51
  17. 2.7Afterlgow04:25
  18. 2.8Turn It On Again05:13
  19. 2.9Dance On A Volcano04:29
  20. 2.10Drum Duet01:55
  21. 2.11Los Endos06:12
  22. 2.12I Know What I Like11:53
Recording comments
Remastered from BURP 036. Tracks 2-06 and 2-07 contains splices from other show, most likely 29-11-1981. [Simon_Funnell]

Sound quality changes quite a lot during show. My personal rating of the quality would be like this: 1.1 - 1.2 (A-), 1.3 - 1.7 (A), 1.8 (A-), 1.9 - 2.3 (A), 2.4 - 2.7 (B+), 2.8 (B+/A-), 2.9 - 2.12 (A). [kaspergm]

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Cincinatti Remastered
2h 4m total
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2CD-R
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A-
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.3/10 (6 ratings)
15 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:52
  2. 1.2Duchess06:26
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway07:10
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:11
  5. 1.5Abacab09:14
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:09
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:54
  8. 1.8No Reply At All / Phil Talking10:12
  9. 1.9Firth Of Fifth09:41
  10. 2.1Man On The Corner06:39
  11. 2.2Who Dunnit?05:12
  12. 2.3In The Cage /07:16
  13. 2.4Cinema Show /03:12
  14. 2.5The Colony Of Slippermen01:03
  15. 2.6Afterglow04:27
  16. 2.7Turn It On Again05:14
  17. 2.8Dance On A Volcano /04:28
  18. 2.9Drum Duet /01:57
  19. 2.10Los Endos06:12
  20. 2.11I Know What I Like12:00
Recording comments
Another remastered version. Speed sounds right.
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SAB 03
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2CD-R
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A-
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SAB 03
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.3/10 (33 ratings)
84 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:48
  2. 1.2Duchess06:13
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway06:59
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:01
  5. 1.5Abacab09:02
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:02
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:50
  8. 1.8No Reply At All10:11
  9. 1.9Firth Of Fifth09:10
  10. 2.1Phil's Mistake02:39
  11. 2.2Man On The Corner04:26
  12. 2.3Who Dunnit?05:43
  13. 2.4In The Cage07:38
  14. 2.5Cinema Show / Slippermen04:02
  15. 2.6Afterglow04:26
  16. 2.7Turn It On Again05:13
  17. 2.8Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet06:24
  18. 2.9Los Endos06:10
  19. 2.10I Know What I Like11:53
Recording comments
Probably 3rd generation soundboard

Cincinatti always gets a hard time from people but actually the sound on this version in particular is pretty good. It remains the only full professional Abacab show in circulation, so is a must for that reason alone. [LivingForever]

A- because its a full abacab tour soundboard. If it were anything else I would give it a B. Some hissing and a muddy mix. [lasercone77]

Actually not quite complete as Carpet Crawlers is lacking - thus the break between Abacab and Me And Sarah Jane ... [kaspergm]

Aside from slightly compressed (but stereo) sound and some distortion on the heavy bass pedal parts, this is a good recording with clear instrumentation. This is the best I have heard Phil sing these songs apart from the official Three Sides versions. [pablo]

It's probably the not-so-low-generation of the tapes that kicks off the original quality of the recording, but this is a nice show with a pleasurable sound; Dan has done a good job as usual, hardworking on muddy and dead sounding tapes, giving them a new "soft but good" life :-) [Gigio67]

I'll give it an A because it's the most complete professional Abacab recording. If there had been other great recordings from this tour this would rate A- at best. [mdekoning]

I like this show a lot BUT this easily could be an audience recording. [speedy]

This one is for me a must-have - not because of the recording quality, which tends rather towards B+ than A- - but because of the quality of the performance. Possibly the best genesis concert next to the Nassau concert some 8 days later - and the most complete show from this tour! I actually find that the sound can be improved by adding some extra equalization, a bit of compressing and some denoising and dehissing. I know one should be carefull to play too much around with these things so as not too destroy the recording sound - but since it's pretty distorted anyway, there's really not so much to loose. [kaspergm]

Well, I'm going to say an "A", basically because there isn't all that much out there to choose from on this tour in terms of full gigs and all that. Obviously the Colisuem and Savoy recordings are better. But, for a complete gig with stories and all, this one is a must for a collector. The soundboard gets some crowd reactions and a bit of a live feel. And, it is not a bad gig at that from the performers. Phil's voice is "jacked" as we say in the states, overreaching certain high notes at points. The lads rip through the "Cinema Show and Slipperman" sections of "In the Cage" with reckless abandon - really awesome playing there. Also, a live "Who Dunnit?" is a treat. That said, the guys really didn't stretch to spice up the live set from the Duke tour all that much; closing with "Dance/Drums/Endos/I Know What I Like" and so on. Also, Phil's seems to have a stretch of perverted stories before 5 tunes in a row which fatten a pretty modest set. but add little to the overall vibe. Still, of the 60 or so gigs on this tour, a good listen. Peace! [jrromman]

In my opinion a must have recording of this tour. In terms of sound quality I propose to listen to the Nassau, NY show and to the Cologne-remastered show. Both of them are also must have shows from this tour and have a much better sound quality than this one. [felix.baerenz]

A bit too strong on the bass pedals on this recording. Especially during Behind the Lines. Very good version. Not really worthy of an A+ Most parts of the concert sound like they're spliced in from different sources like an aud recording that had a B- quality at best. [legalbeagle]

In an attempt to set the record straight, Simon has confirmed that there are no soundboard recordings for this date. They are all audience recordings. [duke23]
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BURP 036
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2CD-R
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A-
Catalogue #
BURP 036
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.0/10 (9 ratings)
32 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:41
  2. 1.2Duchess06:19
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway06:58
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:02
  5. 1.5Abacab09:02
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:02
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:50
  8. 1.8No Reply At All / Story Of Cindy Lou10:12
  9. 1.9Firth Of Fifth09:09
  10. 2.1Man On The Corner Story02:39
  11. 2.2Man On The Corner04:26
  12. 2.3Who Dunnit? / Band Intros05:43
  13. 2.4In The Cage07:49
  14. 2.5The Cinema Show / The Colony Of Slippermen03:43
  15. 2.6Afterglow04:32
  16. 2.7Turn It On Again05:13
  17. 2.8Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet06:24
  18. 2.9Los Endos06:10
  19. 2.10I Know What I Like11:53
Recording comments
Clearer than SAB03, but very metallic and distorted in sound. Has all the known issues of the Cincinnati source (Carpet Crawlers and Major part of Cinema Show / Slippermen / Afterglow missing, No Reply At All and Turn It On Again of inferior sound). [kaspergm]

Yeah it is metallic and distorted as mentioned but it is one of the best and clearest audience recordings I have ever heard. Simon confirmed that the sound is so good that it is often confused as a soundboard source. There are no soundboard recordings for this date. [duke23]
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Untitled recording
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2CD-R
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B+
Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.0/10 (5 ratings)
15 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Behind The Lines05:24
  2. 1.2Duchess06:24
  3. 1.3The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway06:58
  4. 1.4Dodo / Lurker07:16
  5. 1.5Abacab09:13
  6. 1.6Me And Sarah Jane07:07
  7. 1.7Misunderstanding03:55
  8. 1.8No Reply At All04:59
  9. 1.9Phil Talking05:08
  10. 1.10Firth Of Fifth09:22
  11. 2.1Man On The Corner06:41
  12. 2.2Who Dunnit?05:40
  13. 2.3In The Cage / Cinema Show / The Colony Of Slippermen11:44
  14. 2.4Afterglow04:29
  15. 2.5Turn It On Again05:15
  16. 2.6Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet / Los Endos12:46
  17. 2.7I Know What I Like12:00
Recording comments
Upgraded remastered version. Slightly Too Fast.

Seems that the audience is A) Really far away. B) Not really into the show. May explain why this was the next to the last show that Genesis played in Cincinnati (they didn't come back again until '83; and haven't been back since. [2ndsout]

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SAB 03

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