Groenoordhal, Leiden

The Netherlands · Saturday 20 May 1978 · And Then There Were Three

48 years, 5 months and 20 days ago

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Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)
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1DVD-R
Quality
A-
Catalogue #
EFDVDG08
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.4/10 (17 ratings)
39 people have this recording
  1. Nationwide news programme. Includes clips from three European shows including Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Recording comments
Also includes bonus footage: German TV (5 minutes - including clips from Vienna Stadhalle and Ulm Summerfest) and Many Too May (alternate promo video). This is the 'trade only' EFDVD and is not available for download or vining - find someone who has it and make a trade (and a new friend!) [LivingForever]

The source for the main feature was a very low generation tape kindly supplied by Chris Davies - and it offers the best picture in terms of stability that we had come across, having none of the annoying dropouts that affect most versions of this. Hopefully you will not be fooled by the screenshot of the Dallas 77 clip from this DVD which is much worse quality than the rest of the film, I suspect the BBC did not have access to a particularly good master for that! The alternate Many Too Many video clip is the one as seen in the main feature, but with slightly better picture and redubbed sound from the Platinum Collection remix. The Vienna and Ulm clips extracted from a documentary about Phil Collins broadcast on German TV in 1996. Sources came from Chris Davies, Alan Hewitt and Dave Bowler, and the DVD was authored by Willem Beens with art from Azzy Artworks. [LivingForever]
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Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)
46m total
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1DVD+R
Quality
B+
Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.2/10 (5 ratings)
20 people have this recording
  1. Nationwide news programme. Includes clips from three European shows including Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Recording comments
Documentry featuring clips from Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Show memories
Parts of this show were filmed for inclusion in the BBC TV documentary Three Dates With Genesis [A Hewitt]
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Genesis Collection 1978 (DVD)
1h 35m total
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1DVD+R
Quality
B+
Catalogue #
GMDVD 07
Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.0/10 (21 ratings)
61 people have this recording
  1. (Stadthalle, Austria - 28-Aug-79) Clips And Interviews - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway / The Musical Box / In The Cage / Cinema Show / Afterglow - 18:46
  2. (Sun Plaza Hall, Tokyo - 03-Dec-78)Eleventh Earl Of Mar / Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet / Los Endos / I Know What I Like - 28:47
  3. (Three Dates With Genesis - 1978) Interviews And Clips From European Tour - 15:47
  4. (Unknown Source) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 14:57
  5. (Hamburg, Germany - 13-Jun-78) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 06:58
  6. (Durtmund, Germany - 14-Jun-78) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 03:59
  7. (Stadthalle, Austria - 28-Aug-79) Clips And Interviews From Rebroadcast - 06:44
Recording comments
Does a good job of collecting up the 1978 material (although only the live portions of the 'Three Dates' documentary are included.) Unfortunately, there is no real "jewel in the crown" as with the other GMDVD releases so it's one of my less played, but still worth having! [LivingForever]

A full audience recording of the Leiden show exists and will likely surface soon. [earlofgenesis]

Yes, Leiden (in audio) should be released either just prior or just after the Christmas holiday. [MB]

Nice 8mm Footage, although they are all dubbed with Squonk and One for the Vine. Sadly the Dortmund Footage seems to end with a Light Show of Los Endos, if the filmer would have waited a few minutes, we could have had footage from the Suppers Ready Encore. And if you try to dub some parts, you will notice that there is Footage from "Fontain of Salmacis", actually the only one known. I Hope that Someday a Video footage will appear from Knebworth or Vienna, Just like it happened with the Lyceum gig. :-) [chinwildchicken]
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BURP 029
2h 18m total
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Media
2CD-R
Quality
B
Catalogue #
BURP 029
Rating ★★★☆☆ 5.1/10 (14 ratings)
42 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Eleventh Earl Of Mar09:28
  2. 1.2In The Cage09:05
  3. 1.3Burning Rope07:29
  4. 1.4Ripples11:33
  5. 1.5Deep In The Motherlode06:00
  6. 1.6The Fountain Of Salmacis10:35
  7. 1.7Down And Out06:08
  8. 1.8One For The Vine10:47
  9. 2.1Squonk07:29
  10. 2.2Say It's Alright Joe06:31
  11. 2.3The Lady Lies07:00
  12. 2.4Romeo & Juliet Story03:34
  13. 2.5The Cinema Show11:42
  14. 2.6Afterglow05:06
  15. 2.7Follow You, Follow Me04:24
  16. 2.8Dance On A Volcano04:25
  17. 2.9Drum Duet01:16
  18. 2.10Los Endos07:07
  19. 2.11I Know What I Like09:10
Recording comments
Nice sounding show, even though I have given it a B rating for sound quality, not quite a B+. [NeilC]

The source for this recording was Jeroen Haans. His version is 2nd generation, but he was on the trail, for a few months, of the master itself but unfortunately, it eluded him. The SQ was told to me, in advance, of being 'average' to 'good', which I think is accurate and the remastering that was applied to it enhanced it slightly. But again, given the source, a remastering wasn't really expected to yield a significant improvement. But, it was a heretofore unheard of recording, unearthed mid last year, so finding something new is still always fun. MB [MB]
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2nd Generation
2h 17m total
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Media
2CD-R
Quality
B
Rating ★★★☆☆ 5.0/10 (2 ratings)
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  1. 1.1Eleventh Earl Of Mar09:48
  2. 1.2In The Cage08:39
  3. 1.3Burning Rope08:11
  4. 1.4Ripples10:44
  5. 1.5Deep In The Motherlode06:55
  6. 1.6The Fountain Of Salmacis09:34
  7. 1.7Down And Out06:23
  8. 1.8One For The Vine10:42
  9. 2.1Squonk07:28
  10. 2.2Say It's Alright Joe06:32
  11. 2.3The Lady Lies06:19
  12. 2.4Romeo & Juliet Story03:35
  13. 2.5The Cinema Show11:34
  14. 2.6Afterglow05:09
  15. 2.7Follow You, Follow Me04:28
  16. 2.8Dance On A Volcano04:27
  17. 2.9Drum Duet01:12
  18. 2.10Los Endos07:14
  19. 2.11I Know What I Like09:05
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The Leiden Digital Experiment
2h 19m total
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Media
2CD-R
Quality
B
Catalogue #
Digital Brothers Production
Rating ★★★☆☆ 5.0/10 (6 ratings)
24 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Eleventh Earl Of Mar09:39
  2. 1.2In The Cage08:54
  3. 1.3Burning Rope07:59
  4. 1.4Ripples11:04
  5. 1.5Deep In The Motherlode06:43
  6. 1.6The Fountain Of Salmacis09:51
  7. 1.7Down And Out06:23
  8. 1.8One For The Vine10:58
  9. 2.1Squonk07:55
  10. 2.2Say It's Alright Joe06:33
  11. 2.3The Lady Lies06:24
  12. 2.4The Story Of Romeo & Juliet03:38
  13. 2.5The Cinema Show11:38
  14. 2.6Afterglow05:13
  15. 2.7Follow You, Follow Me04:28
  16. 2.8Dance On A Volcano04:28
  17. 2.9Drum Duet01:16
  18. 2.10Los Endos06:56
  19. 2.11I Know What I Like09:21

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EFDVDG08 - Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)

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GMDVD 07 - 1978 (DVD Case)

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BURP 029

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Leiden 78 - 2nd Generation

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The Leiden Digital Experiment

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Notes

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Parts of this show were filmed for inclusion in the BBC TV documentary Three Dates With Genesis [A Hewitt]